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iPhone SE and iPhone Mini - Hop.bg #10

29.01.2025    0 likes 50

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Podcast ep.10

Does size matter? When phones were small, why weren't they big? When they became big, why aren't there small ones? Even when you're sleeping, they can't unlock it. Here, the prices are much lower, both for the display and the back panel.

If my phone rings at home, my phone rings, my tablet rings, my watch rings. Hello! Hello again! We're back with the standard team. It's us again! From the Plovdiv store.

Yes, last time you were quite satisfied and we received very good feedback about filming in the Plovdiv store, so we decided to travel some kilometers again today and shoot the footage from here.

And to film this video from here. As we mentioned last time, in the previous video, this week's topic will be about some less popular (in quotes) phones from Apple, namely the Pro versions. We won't be talking about the Special Edition versions of the second and third generation, as well as the iPhone 12 mini and iPhone 13 mini. Since this video was prompted by questions you ask, we want to ask you to follow our channel and hit the bell to receive notifications for each new video and stay informed about the new content we make. So. Shall we begin, Rived?

Let's begin, yes. What are we actually going to look at? Four models that are quite similar in pairs, technologically they're different, but visually very similar. Specifically SE2 and SE3, and 12 mini and 13 mini visually look similar in pairs. Yes, I notice small differences in the minis' cameras. Exactly.

In the design of the minis. The actual design of these phones we'll look at today is dictated by what we might call a breath of times past. Yes, they are... For people who live in the Past. Exactly. By the way, this is completely reasonable. So iPhone SE 2 and SE 3, which we have in front of us on your screens, are also visually similar externally.

Yes, they're externally similar. With design like the older ones. Exactly, like the first iPhones, after the square ones that already stopped - iPhone 4, iPhone 5 were with edges. We went through the new design from iPhone 6 to iPhone 8 and XS. 11 was also rounded. From 12 onwards we're returning to the old ones.

Apparently Apple realized then that this isn't something to underestimate. There are people who are fans of this design. Exactly. Going back a bit earlier in the episode, you can say why we're making this video, since you're on the frontline and can tell what people look for, what they prefer at certain times, why size or actually does size matter? In this case size definitely matters. What I call a work phone, definitely. This is a phone for people who, like with the iPad mini which we discussed in the previous episode.

This is for people who are constantly on the move, for whom a large phone is inconvenient, but they need to have all the smart applications necessary for their daily life. How do you view this phone?

I'm someone who doesn't move around much. I'm someone who doesn't move around much, but for me it's small. You're used to working with big things. Exactly, but it's extremely convenient. I especially like the mini variants, where the difference with the SE is that this is all display, while the SE has a home button. Yes, but here rather let's say, you're with, excuse me for interrupting, you're with there 520, Max, Pro, Plus, Top and so on.

Silverado. Compared to it, this phone disappears in your hand. It completely disappears, yes. But there are people who, well really for every train to have its passengers, that's what they wanted to say and do and it really works out.

Well yes, when 5S was the last small phone, Apple users literally erupted about why everything became so big and then they drove the first generation after 5S, not quite to... Actually the first generation is... Between 5 and 5S, but when the new design came out and phones were already bigger, when there was 6, 6+, etc.

When phones were small, why aren't they big, when they became big, why aren't there small ones? There isn't much difference between the SEs, because they're designed like the 8. They don't have any visual difference. Which means this thing, the standard phone, with large frame top-bottom, with fingerprint in the home button on the display, glass back, with small display, respectively purely hardware-wise, as display, as camera, there's no change from iPhone 8 in terms of parameters. This is as much a minus as it is a plus for me, because what does this mean?

Cheap parts, they have good performance due to purely hardware changes made to them, but most importantly what concerns us as users is when we drop it, how much does the display cost? And back panel. The most pressing question. Here prices are many times lower, both for the display and the back panel compared to their successors, the minis.

Even battery replacement is noticeably cheaper. Yes, and the risk during battery replacement. We're saying this purely to inform you, our users of these phones, to be more at ease that price-wise it doesn't hurt as much.

Now what can we say, besides the design, this is visible, remains almost unchanged from iPhone 8, but purely hardware-wise they now follow with the years. I'd even say iPhone 8, but if going back in time, maybe from iPhone 6. The exterior remains not so much changed, not to say they're the same.

Yes, with this they're slightly different. They tweak them here and there, mostly inside under the shell is where all the change is. For people who like this design but at the same time want to keep up with Apple's latest hardware developments, be it the mentioned chips they have, which they hold. They want to be software current. And to be current to this day. What we're showing you right now, what's in front of you, all are supported to this day.

All support the latest version of iOS 18 in this case, yes, to this day. If you're watching this video after 10 years it will be iOS 28, 30, something like that. Yes, the good thing. Here's one of the differences visible from the latest models, the minis we're showing you. We can visually see the difference they changed. We're talking about the difference between the two minis. Between the two minis, exactly. In one I said. The difference is just the camera changed slightly, one is diagonal, the other is...

One year of development. One year of development, yes. Sometimes Apple is known for introducing innovations just in time. Just in time, yes. Actually the big difference is between the two different models, between the Mini and Special Edition or SE. Now we have the new design introduced from iPhone 12 onwards, namely the edge design.

Respectively we have the larger display which now has the fingerprint removed. Exactly, we're moving to Face ID now. But size-wise the phone is smaller than... Yes, this is exactly because of this hardware change, because here we have very large frames, while in mini variants we don't have frames, respectively it's all display, and the security, unlocking has moved to the newer systems, Face ID is introduced here and respectively we save quite, quite a lot of space.

So, another substantial difference we can note, the minis, again I'm on this topic, this is my favorite the minis. You are. Love them. I really love the minis. And it's not my favorite with the minis. Love them. I really love the minis. And I love the phone too.

I'm used to working with such and now we have to make. So many we have. So, the minis let's return to the topic. An important step forward in time is, we're comparing iPhone 12 mini with iPhone 13 mini, besides the cameras which we mentioned in a joking way. A very important thing is what customers are most interested in in one. One of the most important things that interest customers in a phone is internal memory or memory, how many photos it can store. With one, with 12 they start from 64 gigabytes, while with 13 mini they start from 128 and go up to 512. That's the substantial difference between the two phones.

Yes, and here it's important, no, this is your topic, do you have problems with running out of memory, how do you proceed in such case, do you change the phone, purchase iCloud space. Why can I open a parenthesis? Because at some point you need to decide whether to add a little money to get the larger size phone which you'll pay for once or after 3-4 months, depending on what you use it for.

If you take photos, okay, but if you're... Here we're not talking about these 4 models we're looking at, we're talking about... In general. In general about absolutely all Apple products. Whether we can pay extra once for more memory or subsequently pay every month for iCloud space. Yes this is an off-topic theme that's interesting. There the feelings are really very mixed.

I pay for iCloud. It's not much, but when you receive. They were paid so much and here's the invoice. Yes, but there's backup, there's everything. There's backup, there's everything. This is much safer, especially for people who work purely in a work environment with such devices and rely on them.

As here we want to ask you, are you interested, is it interesting for you about Apple's ecosystem, do you want us to tell and introduce you to it in upcoming videos. If yes, leave comments under the video so we know it's interesting for you and we can prepare a little informative video about this thing.

And as you said the backup is very important. On the other hand again staying in this open parenthesis I am quite devoted to Apple. We understood that from previous videos. Yes purely as a user well I haven't made my money back for this thing but it's very easy and very nice for me to use it because exactly using Apple's ecosystem absolutely everything is in one place.

By ecosystem you mean the connectivity of all Apple devices? The connectivity of all Apple devices, exactly. All my photos are on all devices. You can talk from the MacBook. Yes, when my phone rings at home, both my phone rings, my tablet rings, my watch rings and generally.

You're devoted to Apple. With these devices you'll hear wherever, take whichever is closest. This is very useful, by the way. Very useful, very cool, when you open your laptop and it unlocks because your watch is on your wrist.

Or such luxuries which, how to say, help, make your life easier at the respective value. Let's return to the minis. Yes, we went off topic, but I think it's interesting and many people don't realize how much it would help them in life, because quite often we get questions, well here we have some photos, my phone got crushed, how can I get them out?

No way check, the phone is in two pieces, how do we get these photos out? They respectively don't have backup in iCloud and their whole three years of taking photos of child, floor, wife, depending on what interests they have, remain in nothing.

Gone completely. Let's return to the mini. Actually, again I say, this was a topic dictated by inquiries. You as a person on the front line, how do customers accept that the phones are different from the normal friends, the pure models?

14, 15, 16. The mini and Special Edition, where do they stand in terms of demand? Well, as I'll remember, they're more profiled in terms of demand for these phones. Most people look for their larger models, their standard ones and Pros now.

But personally the convenience of having such a small phone, I would say is quite good. I also have two iPhones, one is small, definitely not quite second generation. Which? I for the phone have. Yes. The feeling itself is different, it's smaller, definitely. More inconvenient when browsing the internet, because Facebook as a whole, because the screen is smaller, but then everything else is more okay. For daily use it's better if we use it as a phone, if we use it as... As a device that should have everything.

Exactly, but for watching videos, for browsing etc. it's certainly not as convenient. No, no, no. It's very tiny as something else. But for an everyday phone it's pretty convenient. Especially, again I say, if we return to the Special Editions, there also for a work phone it's quite OK, because again repairing it is quite cheaper. Quick communication between you with this phone through Viber or Messenger with photos is also very easy.

The big advantage of these little phones is that they can be operated with one hand. Meaning literally from one end to the other reaches with one movement. Yes, that's the big plus. Yes, please, show lengthwise. Are under settings between the two. It's just turned off. And we should guess and puzzle actually that your hand is big. His pocket is big, so this small phone has a big risk of getting lost in his pocket.

Yes, to confuse it with the lighter. To wonder whether it's his lighter or phone. Exactly. The other thing, as a disadvantage in this joking way, we can point out about the minis is that if we still try to take a panoramic photo on them, we won't be able to see it in real size.

Well actually here we can say that talking about photos, we can say what are the big differences between Special Editions and between Minis, namely the two cameras. Exactly. Ultra-Wide and Wide make panoramic photos, that's the difference between this phone having one camera and this having two cameras.

Visually, we talked about Apple's innovations. Exactly and I would say that the cameras are quite decent. Yes, they stand out, the brand stands out with that even with fewer megapixels than their. 120 megapixel, 240 and so on. Yes, very real photos come out, rather here not real photos but more real colors come out in the images, but here it applies not only for specifically these models but for the whole range they offer.

Something more specific that they become with live photos. Yes, that mini phone doesn't mean the cameras are worse than standard iPhone. Well we're not talking, not referring to pro variants, there the situation is very different. Yes, we can discuss that in some next video of ours. Maybe, yes, of course, you viewers will say whether it's interesting for you to look at pro models as a separate, as a separate category. As separate yes, video to make for them.

Which, what can we say, actually I'm standing here looking, saying okay there's a very big plus that we have Face ID camera, but why is it a plus in some moments, I'll tell you years ago, my phone was unlocked already the moment I take it out of my pocket because when I grab it from my pocket, instinctively my finger is on the fingerprint.

Really already when I've taken it out, it's unlocked and lit up. But here although much more advanced technology, from a security point of view, I wouldn't say that... There's nothing secure. In the first Samsung models there were videos how they unlock with a photo from another phone. I take a photo, show it to the phone and this unlocks here. We've tried it, it works quite correctly, works with glasses, works in the dark.

With a mask, even when you're sleeping still can't open it. Yes, because you need to have open eyes. Yes, yes, yes. They thought of it. Maybe tell this to the Chinese. They'll have a problem with Face ID. Yes, but definitely both phones, purely hardware and software-wise are quite current in 2024. Price-wise they stand quite lower and quite different.

Quite attractive. Yes, as again we say... Yes, not to exclude the fact that these are the budget versions. More budget versions. More budget versions? Yes, more budget, I accept the correction more correctly. More budget versions. Hey, now I have a friend who is quite shorter, he uses 13 SE mini and says buddy can you imagine, but I'm with some Pro Max and so on, that I'll walk around like with a neck.

And my face won't be visible. Jokes aside, but really the phones are quite current in 24, hold up well, support the newest software updates, and every peak. Yes, has its passengers. Whether to return. Exactly. As a conclusion, I think we can say that this is a really convenient phone for working people and people who are on the move. Exactly.

Those who drive constantly, also very convenient. And for those who really use the phone largely as a phone, because there will always be people like me, like you, who in daily life work with the phone and the small phone at times is an obstacle, but there are also people, depending on the evening, I won't go into details, who use it as a phone but are fans of the brand want to have the bitten apple in their pocket and for them it's suitable because they'll also support the newest software.

And you can use it as a smartphone, of course. Of course. Yes. What will Apple surprise us with in this segment from here on? Well, I think it's quite so... We touched on the most important topics and many similar questions will become video. Exactly. Okay, that was for today from store Pleven, from store Pleven, Plovdiv. Pleven, in Lechentsite, in Lechentsite. Yes, this was for today from store HobBG in city Plovdiv. Until next time.

Bye. Bye. from store HOPBG in city Plovdiv. Until next time! Bye!

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